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[recklessbelief]

Name: Anonymous - but probably poorly so
Date: 05/17
Format: Text!

does anyone know why monsters can't do magic?
i'm not talking about being able to do alchemy, i know that monsters can follow recipes and make stuff that way (;¬_¬)
but monsters are just as connected to the magic of this world as the witches are
so what gives???

is it just that no monster's ever been successful and so everyone's just assuming they can't?
or is there actually something that makes it so they can't

just curious

Comments

[unholey]

I'm asking because I think the subject is fascinating and would be interested in joining the conversation. But it's not really a conversation if you're just going to argue in circles with anyone who responds with an answer you don't like.

Hence, the question: do you actually want an answer, or do you just want to vent? I didn't say you were wrong to be frustrated. You bring up valid points how it's bullshit that Monsters appear to be limited to particular kinds of natural magic and alchemy, but you're so bent out of shape about it that you're shutting down valid lines of thought.

[recklessbelief]

i'm not arguing in circles with anyone or shutting anyone down

i've only corrected ONE person that i'm not talking about monster abilities, i'm talking about being able to cast spells from ANY subject like witches can and we only talk like that to each other because it's how we ALWAYS talk to each other even when we're trying our best not to

all i've been saying is maybe there's a way that isn't reliant upon the stuff related to the bonds or maybe it is in the bonds and we just haven't figured it out yet because there's so much we don't know. like i was saying to other people, maybe there's objects that can be used or excess magic from bonds to more than one witch or something. i don't know what the answer is, but i feel like there has to be one given that monsters can do any kind of magic at all with their abilities

look, simply saying it's impossible because of the knowledge we have right now isn't enough for me to say it's impossible and completely write it off. i'm not going to just accept that and go "oh gee i guess ur right haha" when every possible avenue hasn't actually been exhausted yet
if u don't like that, there's nothing holding you here forcing you to talk to me? u can go talk about it how you like with someone else

[unholey]

In case you've forgotten: you are anonymous. I have no way of knowing who you are, you you're friends with, and how you normally talk with them. All I know about you is what you've written.

I can tell you have a passion for the subject, but brushing aside basic facts about how magic works in this world won't get you any closer to your goal. Monster bodies simply process magical energy differently than human bodies do. That's what makes Monster/Witch Bonds such effective tools to managing excess magical energy. And while their ability to manipulate magical energy may be more narrow in scope, what Monsters can do within their areas of expertise is nothing short of extraordinary and beyond the abilities of most Witches. Dismissing those experiences (as well as the entire study of alchemy) is a mistake.

Rather than slamming yourself against the grain of the system, you are likely to find more success when you work with it. If Monster bodies can't manipulate magical energy the same way Witches do because they are naturally inclined to act as a conduit for it, what tools or methods can be developed to allow them to tap into it? If Monsters have their own innate magic, is that magic the same magic that Witches of the Coven practice? Or is it a different sort of magic altogether?

But, whatever.

[recklessbelief]

i'm not explaining myself any further to you because you're not listening to me at all
you're just assuming a bunch of stuff about someone you don't even know
because you already made it up in your mind that i'm dismissing or belittling things.
you've already decided that i'm being narrowminded when what you're accusing me of is not what i'm saying
even tho what you're saying i should be thinking about or doing or whatever is exactly what i just said to you

i clearly can't say or do anything right to you and i'm not wasting my time arguing with you about what i mean